With the former it was believed that this was a cheap plot point that actively walked back Darth Vader’s redemption at the end of Return of the Jedi . Reply to this topic; Start new topic; Recommended Posts. Mara Jade was forced to slay the insane Jedi Master with the help of Luke Skywalker, who had been instantly relieved of the buzzing pressure in his mind after the death of his clone. Whenever this topic is brought up, it's usually said by someone that Luke defeated Palpatine via the help of Leia, which is partially true. Dark Empire Palpatine: Luke turns to the Dark side/Rey is tempted by the Dark side. But the animation here is well done, even if Dark Empire was trash in my opinion. That's it. To the very heart of the dark side.". Tempting her with a Jedi holocronhe had in his possession… Dark Side Luke vs Palpatine Clone (Dark Empire, Animated). The rule is that Palpatine can control his storms, and there's no reason to believe that Storm was an exception to the rule, especially when it did exactly what Palpatine wanted it to. However, she doesn't actually join with him yet (as we see shortly afterwards). Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun 9,607 Imperial Advisor … Empire's End After perishing in battle with Luke and Leia Skywalker in Dark Empire I, Emperor Palpatine is forced to occupy an inferior clone body, since it was the last clone body that remained. save. Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. Anybody who says that death was a "minor inconvenience to Palpatine in Dark Empire" clearly didn't understand it. Palpatine's feats are also miles ahead of Luke. Dark Empire: Luke vs. Palpatine Whenever this topic is brought up, it's usually said by someone that Luke defeated Palpatine via the help of Leia, which is partially true. Weak argument. Yes. Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. Once again, no time frame is given. Similar to the Galactic Empire prior to 4 ABY, the Dark Empire's official title for its head of state was the Galactic Emperor, and it utilized several portions of the Imperial Military to enforce the Emperor's will via a Diet of Imperial Planetary Governors. Empire's End confirms she was using Battle Meditation to aid Luke during his fight with Palpatine... Why is this still so hard for people to accept? Luke takes his father's place as Palpatine's apprentice because he believes he must understand the dark side of the Force and why his father fell to it. The audio drama makes confirms she wasn't helping Luke during the duel. The villain threatened to use Luke, and then Leia's unborn baby, as a host, which presumably means he could have jumped from body to body following Return of the Jedi , … In Dark Empire, Luke straight-up turns to … Paste as plain text instead, × Yes.   You cannot paste images directly. Unfortunately, she only succeeded in getting herself, Han Solo, Chewbacca and C-3PO captured. By the time of his death, Palpatine was a master level duelist able to duel and kill multiple Jedi lightsaber masters at once and win, and able to fight Luke faster than Leia could even make out. Dark side powers he just began to use and was still a novice at. The death of the clone Luuke caused a deranged Joruus C'baoth to go on a rampage. Leia says that in the audiobook in the same moment she gains that aura in the comics.   Your previous content has been restored. A better comparison would be between Mace getting wrecked by Palpatine's Lightning after being disarmed, and Luke also being wrecked after disarming himself. Unlike the Empire prior to 4 ABY, however, it was openly run by a Force user (in this case, Dark Jedi/Sith).   Your link has been automatically embedded. share. You can post now and register later. It's just before the duel.   Pasted as rich text. Do you have anything to support your statement that he wasn't in control of his Storm other than baseless speculation? 1 comment. Palpatine even manages to turn Luke to the Dark Side, forcing Leia to save her brother from Palpatine’s influence just as Luke once saved their father. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. The Dark Empire comics are no longer canon, but they've served as inspiration for J.J. Abrams's new saga, and could contain a spoiler to the big Palpatine twist in The Rise of Skywalker. The character appears in each trilogy in the nine-film Skywalker saga, in which he is portrayed by Ian McDiarmid and serves as the overarching villain. She did bond with Luke to cut off Palpatine powering his Force Storm and used Force Harmony on him. Clear editor. Sidious lost control of the storm because Luke and Leia affected his connection with the force. 67% Upvoted. In the near-decade following 1983's Return of the Jedi, Star Wars fans were left in the cold with very little in terms of new material. That all changed with the release of Timothy Zahn's 1992 novel Heir to the Empire.Set five years after the destruction of the second Death Star, the story followed Luke, Han, and Leia in the Episode VII fans wanted to see. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Uniting the Galactic Empire's shattered fragments, they systematically retook the Galaxy from the New Republic. We've added a few more onto our existing list to better flesh out Palpatine's penchant for over-dramatic Sith villainy! By No, no. Palpatine was quick to take advantage of this and attempted to turn Leia to the dark side as well. hide. Darth Vader is dead, but a reborn Empire—under a mysterious new leader—strikes back at the struggling Rebel Alliance. Unknown to him, his personal physician had been corrupted by Carnor Jax, backed by a number of other high-ranking Imperial personnel. Leia, having come to rescue Luke with Han, Chewbacca and C-3p0, is much more skeptical. Further, he describes the process of him moving his spirit as excruciating, and tells Luke that he barely made it back to Byss (after Endor) with his sanity intact. She doesn't realize what to do until after the duel. Luke Skywalker I'm sorry as much as I love Anakin/Vader, George Lucas said Luke wins as early as RotJ, and this is pre Dark Empire Luke who is much stronger. It’s important to start off with why these two works are controversial, and with Dark Empire it’s down to two intertwined things: the return of Palpatine, and Luke falling to the Dark Side. After Luke Skywalker made a partial turn to the dark side of the Force and became apprentice to Palpatine, his sister, Leia Organa Solo, traveled to Byss in an attempt to rescue him. Display as a link instead, × Whereas lending her powers to Luke does not preclude her being surprised at him winning, nor being able to track their fighting. Except it doesn't. Sheev Palpatine (Sith identity – Darth Sidious; eventually, Emperor Palpatine) is a character from the Star Wars franchise, commonly known as the Dark Lord of the Sith, who had to establish the Galactic Empire having toppled the Galactic Republic. The primary method of governance was a dark-side magocracy, where the most powerf… Bonus Round: Teenage Luke (right before Episode IV) vs. Palpatine (before Darth Plagueis) in a barfight. Round 6: Luke (after Fate of the Jedi) vs. Darth Sidious (from Dark Empire) on the Death Star II. On a massive dark side nexus. Darth Sidious is definitely one of the most infamous villains of the Star Wars Universe, ceding to Kylo Ren, Darth Vader, and Darth Maul. They then actually join after the duel to cut off Palpatine from his storm. if we go by the audio book, luke doesn't come close to blitzing sids as he does in the comic, also luke recognizes that de palps can't control the amount of power he's unleashing, I mean, he'd jus got his arm cut off, was coming off as desperate, he doesn't have to not be able to control storms to not be in control of that specific storm as there are reasons for him to be out of control there. Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun, August 26, 2019 in X-Wing Off-Topic. Pretty neat; reminds of the the art style in Fire & Ice. Dark Side Luke vs Palpatine Clone (Dark Empire, Animated) By Imperial Advisor Arem Heshvaun, August 26, 2019 in X-Wing Off-Topic. Massive World Devastators, more powerful and unstoppable than the Death Star, ravage entire planets, while the ruthless heirs of Jabba the Hutt place a monumental price on the heads of Princess Leia and her husband, Han Solo. She helps him break free from the dark side. Palpatine was at least as good a duelist as Sith Lords that came before him. × Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe. Who will win in a fight between Darth Sidious (Dark Empire) and Luke Skywalker? 1: Star Wars Beware of the Sith says: Although Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker are equally strong in the Force, their duels are more than just about physical strength. Sheev Palpatine is a fictional character in the Star Wars franchise created by George Lucas.Initially credited as The Emperor in The Empire Strikes Back (1980), Palpatine is also known by his Sith identity Darth Sidious.. Combatants: Palpatine as he was during Dark Empire versus Ruby, Weiss, Blake, and Yang Location: On the planet Byss in Palpatine's throne room Victory Conditions: Palpatine: Death, KO, incapacitation lasting longer than 5 minutes, or converting team RWBY into his agents. Six years after the Battle of Endor, the fight for freedom rages on. Ugh.. rotoscoping. Yeah, I edited my post. The resurrected Emperor Palpatine, as depicted in STAR WARS: Dark Empire.During Palpatine's absence, the Empire, under the command of his cadre of Dark Jedi, initiated Operation Shadow Hand. × On a massive Dark Side nexus where Palpatine confirmed that Luke was using the new powers Palpatine taught him (Dark Side powers) and when Palpatine had just transferred his essence to a new clone body, meaning he had to fight as soon as he transferred his essenc into a new body. https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111178634/5525615-severs+palpatine+of+the+force+1.jpg. She comes to realize Palpatine's machinations extend to her -- and her unborn baby -- as well. . Now, while not a fully trained Jedi, Leia wasn't just normal human either. Superhero battle match: Darth Sidious (Dark Empire) versus Luke Skywalker. After the duel, Skywalker gave the clone's li… The audio supports her Force bonding with him as well. Very similar to Luke in Dark Empire but it also means, that there’s no way Kylo Ren will be content about the return of Palpatine. Along with Lando, Chewbacc… Upload or insert images from URL. This thread is archived. © 2018 Fantasy Flight Publishing, Inc. Fantasy Flight Games and the FFG logo are ® of Fantasy Flight Publishing, Inc. All rights reserved. report. 6 years ago okayalright_44 So, who would win? Palpatine even taunts him in the drama saying, "Did you think you could conquer me by coming here to this. She did bond with Luke to cut off Palpatine powering his Force Storm and used Force Harmony on him. 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